Sunday, August 16, 2009

How come black belt women get raped ? ?

Is it the way martial arts gets taught (too much focus on money), the fact that while most guys brawled before taking up martial arts many women did not have to deal with the stress of a fight outside the dojo ? How come the transition to real life situations oftentimes seems not to work and how can it be fixed ?


There are probably several reasons,

The first one that comes to mind is that even though the person in question is a black belt, most Dojo's or schools never really train as if they're really going to use the art. They throw weak kicks and half-committed punches because they're afraid to get hurt. Then it comes time to apply the situation in a real life scenario and everyone is filled with a false sense of security. All of a sudden their techniques don't work and they're left scratching their head.

In order for someone to be effective in what they've trained, it would be best for them to train as if they're actually going to use it. Full contact sparring, full force punches/kicks (using pads if needed), but that will give the person a realistic sense of confidence and will let them know how they're techniques will work in a real life situation. Then the person can adapt to what works best for them so they can take on stronger opponents or faster ones.

Another reason would probably be that majority of sexual assaults happen when the victim is least prepared for it. They come from behind, jump out at you, or in some cases they just freeze up and forget how to act. It happens to a lot of people when put in a real life situation like that. Kind of hard to defend when you've been surprised or your just in shock that you're really in that type of situation.

Probably another reason, and feel free to argue with me on this, is that majority of people are black belts in Tae Kwon Do and Karate. Those are not very realistic for a sexual assault if you ask me. Majority of females (not all of them so please don't bash me for this) are physically unable to go toe to toe with some to most men (again, this varies person to person) and they're simply beaten too quickly.

A more reasonable form of self defense for a woman against a sexual assault would probably be BJJ because it doesn't require having to have a striking match with a bigger stronger opponent. BJJ really shines when the practitioner is on their back and the attacker is in their guard. From this situation they've nullified a lot of the efficiency of the punches, are able to control where their opponent can go, and allowed them to defend them self with several types of chokes and locks.

In a sexual assault majority of attackers are trying to get between the legs of the victim and in BJJ that's where a lot of people are most dangerous because they train you do fight in that situation.

To be more effective on the street though you need to practice like you're going to use it, and most schools just don't do that.

Anyone with a black belt can be caught off guard.

A black belt doesn't come with a pill of invincibility. Especially nowadays where they can be purchased or you "did" enough time to get there. As a matter of fact it can even give you a false sense of security.

I wish there were some ways to make a distinction between a genuine martial art versus a more sportive one. But like I said even a genuine hard core training doesn’t make you invincible.

Many of the rape cases are from someone you trust or when a girl is vulnerable like half or completely drunk.

I most definitely agree with what Confused user mentioned but to add to the “caught off guard” statement, even a BJJ woman might be in trouble if the guy holds a knife to her throat or a gun. But yes, BJJ practitioners would be in a better disposition.

The good news is that a girl who practices martial arts and moreover is a black belt has much less chance to be a victim than someone who doesn’t. Why? Because they usually are more confident and aware. Is it true for all of them? Probably not, but at least it gives some edge.

P.S. It might be a shocking question but I do agree that it’s a well deserved concern even though it might not be based on an actual fact.

I agree with tyrsson 5 and that "critical 1st few seconds comment".

You are trained to fight matches or rounds and to fight in a peer situation example two guys squaring off in a bar school yard etc. in self defense the likely outcome is decided in the 1st 5 seconds as true self defense usually involves ambush.

Few are trained realistically enough to meet such attacks.In 48 years of training I have heard of only 2 women black belts getting raped .One involved multiple attackers and the other involved the guy coming up behind her and hitting her on the back of the head with a hammer.

Rapists look for easy prey or what appears to be easy prey and they dont want to draw any attention to their actions so a woman black belt or not who puts up a good screaming fight will usually make them run off to finder easier victims.

It's also a good idea in this day and age not to scream rape or fire but scream TERRORIST TERRORIST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because they take martial arts that are ineffective in those types of situations. There is no best martial art, but every martial art has a different purpose. Most martial arts are for sport or to strengthen the spirit or self confidence. Then there are some martial arts that were made during times of war so that one could survive the heat of combat. Different martial arts have different purposes, their martial art didn't suit that purpose.

well the other people and the instructor are to blame if a black belt girl gets raped. it because the guys in the class normally go easy on girls so the girls learn to get used to having people going easy on them and when it comes to the time somoene is trying to rape them they do not expect anyone to come with full strength.

also the instructors havnt been teaching properly if a student i was teaching got raped especially if they wer a black belt i would have to stop teaching till i can learn to teach properly.

also any martial arts class that focuses on money wont teach you properly.

They are given a false sense of security, just like most men who study some martial arts.

All things considered, size and strength is still the biggest obstacle to overcome in an opponent.

Men, on average, are all stronger than women. Many men are stronger or just as strong as the strongest females.

I don't care what martial art the female specializes in, unless she kicks a man 20lbs + in the b a l l s first, she is going down.

The same is true for many men also, who think Tae Kwon Do or Kung Fu will turn them into walking *** kickers.

For men anyway, athleticism and taking boxing or BJJ is most effective.

in my opinion, and this is just my opinion (as in NOT FACTUAL), it could be due to the fact that naturally, a lot of women are not nearly as strong as a full grown man is. technique, which is learned from martial arts, is essential to fighting and winning. but when you have sheer brute force combined with anywhere from little to much technique as most men have (almost every male has been in a fight, or knows SOME type of defense), it is easy to overpower just technique.

for the women who have been raped, i hope the f&%$ers that did that sit on a hot coal in hell. in addition to women learning a martial art, why dont we teach them how to use a gun? im sure there will be less rape if thats the case. would you still try and rape a woman after you've been kicked in the balls and have a gun pointed at you?

Unless she could take that "black belt" and strangle the guy they don't mean anything. A "black belt" means squat on the street. You had better learn a real and practical style and forget those Kata doing, tag sparring goofs. That crap may work on some people but you get someone who really wants to do damage that crap will go right out the window and possible get you killed. I rather fight a so called "black belt" in one of those styles than a really ticked off thug any day.

When making a statement like this you need to support this with some credible sources.

Where are you getting your information that Black Belt women are being raped?

Personally I know of none. I know martial artist that are women and none that I know of are claiming to have gotten raped.

I believe that most if not all of the black belt women that I know will hurt an untrained man.

Because Gun-Do beats Tae-Kwon-Do.

and/or

Because even with training, a 285 pound man that is strong and tough and gets to choose the time and place of the attack can do enough damage in the critical first few seconds of the assault that the 110 pound woman, even tho a skilled martial artist, cannot overcome.

maybe they freeze up in the face of real life danger? i dont know this for sure but i can make a safe assumption that we men face more life threatning moments in our life. i'm not being sexist or anything its just that we're idiots and we get into danger all the time and eventualy we learn to beable to focus on getting out of it

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aucue29l8a3_bPsZI4vj6nzsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080925225326AAbUB7l

this is a link to a question i asked. it is pertaining to your question. I think some of the answers in it will help you understand. I actually think you know the answer and are just asking to see what other people think. but there are some good answers in here.

edit: does it happen, yes but here is a inspireing news report

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2776841/Female-karate-champion-defeats-mugger.html

it is true but happens very rarley. but iknow of one case like that it happen serveal years ago. and the guy got off.because the jury didnt believe that a blackbelt couldnt stop him.so they said it was consentula. but thats just one case.and she was probly in it for competition but self defense.

Not one of MY black belts!!! I've had a couple of women in my class that can, AND WILL make a grown man cry!!!! IT ALL DEPENDS ON TRAINING CONDITIONING, and ALWAYS BEING AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS!!!!!!! But, keep in mind.... even the BEST can be caught off guard or sucker-punched!

The whole world has to much confidence in itself..

please answer my question

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081001165126AAizMrS

Well they might just as good at Karate and stronger cause thier guys or maybe even the guy got the girl off guard and knocked her out first! But,the guy would have to be very slick!

Interesting. . .

because there are black blet men.

Because their hot

Learn all the moves you want to. Men are just stronger.

Mace their buttz!

cant change it...messed up

didnt know that and i dont think its true

i didnt get your questions osrry

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